Adds kets de vries , " senior executives need a place to dump their garbage .

凯茨•德•弗里斯补充道：“高管需要一个倾倒内心垃圾的地方。

Instead of constantly being pushed in real time , executives need reflective inactivity , says kets de vries . "

凯茨•德•弗里斯表示，高官们不应该被不断地推着走，不需要那么迅速地作出反应。

I wonder if prof kets de vries feels like a fake himself .

我很想知道，凯茨？德？弗里斯教授自己是不是感觉像个骗子。

As manfred kets de vries , a professor at insead business school , shows in a new book , the psychological condition of leaders can have a profound impact on all those who work under them .

就像欧洲工商管理学院（insead）教授曼弗雷德凯茨德弗里斯（manfredketsdevries）在其新书中所展示的，领导者的心理状况能够对所有下属产生深远影响。

" You have to manage these devices very carefully , and many of us don 't do it very well , " says kets de vries , who also holds a degree in psychoanalysis . "

凯茨•德•弗里斯还获得过精神分析学的学位，他说：“我们得非常谨慎地管理这些设备，而我们当中很多人做得并不好。