Sellers recalls , " I told her that most of the women on the most powerful women list — carly fiorina , meg whitman , oprah , and many others — had a hangup about the word when we started ranking them in 1998 , but they 've come around , and she should , too .

赛乐回忆道：“我告诉她，自我们于1998年开始评选“最具影响力女性”以来，在该榜单上的大部分女性，包括卡莉•菲奥莉娜、梅格•惠特曼和奥普拉•温弗瑞等等，都在起初听闻这个词后都不太适应，但后来都逐渐改变立场，她也应该这样。